1983
Me: Why do I have to know what a salad fork looks like?
Him: (exasperated) Because, one day you’ll sit down with people that have a fork for salads and you’ll need to know which one to use. Now’s what’s that?
Me: Soup spoon.
Him: (beaming) Yes, soup spoon. That’s right. Good.
Thanks for taking the time to write a comment or email. Found it all really interesting the very different views people had. It’s funny but minorities & native-New Yorkers saw one thing (the second exchange) while non-minorities & non-New Yorkers pretty uniformly saw another (the first exchange).
As I wrote, that was the entire conversation; she never even bothered to respond. And rather than deal with any of the points I made, she sniffed, “Ugh, Logan, ugh! Privileged sentiments bore me.”
Like Nietzxche said, “Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies.” She’s so smugly certain she’s right, she has no need to respond to new information.
Switching gears, you can always tells someone that used to be fat. They lumber. They walk as if they still carry the weight.
When I did lose the weight, onea of first things I did was ask my mom to buy me a nice sweater. She brought me to Alexander’s and I picked out a grey sweater from a bin. Got it big just in case I got fat again.
Wore that sweater proudly cause I got it at a department store. At the time, we didn’t usually get our clothes from a department store. When I told Grace in school about it, she laughed and said that only poor people shopped at Alexander’s and that I probably got it from the bargain bin. So I put the sweater away and only wore it at home.
It took me years to unlearn how to walk like fat person. Just like it took me years so that people didn’t immediately say, “You sound like you’re from Queens.” And years to know that what other people think of me is nonea my business.
Still, gotta admit that “privileged sentiments” made me pause. But not for reasons y’might think.
That I don’t sound like someone born to penniless immigrant parents outside an industrial park in Queens, New York, I take as a particular compliment. No one that was born poor idealizes it, only rich folk that have no clue.
Take it as a testimony to those parents who made sure, even though we grew up with halfa nuthin, we still got a proper upbringing – jia1jiao4. They taught me manners, how to love reading, and how to figure out which one was the salad fork.
“Privileged sentiments” – gotta tell my mom. She’ll take that as a particular compliment too.
And now, geekiness:
Location: hopefully Croxley later
Mood: lethargic
Music: You got the talking down, just not the listening
YASYCTAI: Seriously, stop idealizing things you know nuthin about. NYC in 1993 is hardly NYC when it was gritty. Try five years earlier on for size. (2 mins/1 pt)
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13 replies on “Aerelon: No one that was born poor wants to stay poor”
this two perspectives thing got me thinking. i have this theory…. but before explaining my theory, i would like to ask your readership (if it's ok.. or maybe will just ask you — as this post reminded me of it):
asian-american female (i.e. kelly hu)? or asian-asian female (i.e. zhang ziyi)? and why?
it's a pretty open-ended question… but yes. curious.
Love your blog! I'm from NY, living in Atl now. I miss home.
Hey, thanks for such a nice comment!
Why are you all the way in Atl?
May I ask how you found me?
I really enjoyed this entry. I remember being 17 and really,really into punk rock and having this soup spoon/salad fork discussion with my father. I was completely resistant to the idea that I would ever need that information. It turns out I actually DID need that info.
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